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Opodiphthera Eucalypti Lepdoptera
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Posted - 2012.06.25 17:59:00 -
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Wait, it was a GIFT in a Plex package? I was going to make a joke when I read the first post, now it just got beyond my skills for it.
EDIT: Mercedes |

Opodiphthera Eucalypti Lepdoptera
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.06.25 18:03:00 -
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The Antiquarian wrote:Doc Mulder wrote:I think it's funny.
Just like 30 years ago when my buddy bought an 8088 PC for $5 Grand...and 6 months later it could be had for $900.00. I laughed at him too... I think it's funny too. What you say has nothing to do with our issue. We are not talking about the obsolescence of an item or the decrease in price because of increase in supply. We are talking about CCP's "almost-cryptic-deceptive" marketing practice that incentivize us to dish out hundreds of dollars by making it sound as if this unique collectible item is obtainable contingent upon paying actual cash, when 6 months down the road, they resell it for 50 cents each.
Read that with attention folks, he didn't bough the Plex, he bought the digital shirt. |

Opodiphthera Eucalypti Lepdoptera
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.06.25 18:07:00 -
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The Antiquarian wrote:Opodiphthera Eucalypti Lepdoptera wrote:The Antiquarian wrote:Doc Mulder wrote:I think it's funny.
Just like 30 years ago when my buddy bought an 8088 PC for $5 Grand...and 6 months later it could be had for $900.00. I laughed at him too... I think it's funny too. What you say has nothing to do with our issue. We are not talking about the obsolescence of an item or the decrease in price because of increase in supply. We are talking about CCP's "almost-cryptic-deceptive" marketing practice that incentivize us to dish out hundreds of dollars by making it sound as if this unique collectible item is obtainable contingent upon paying actual cash, when 6 months down the road, they resell it for 50 cents each. Read that with attention folks, he didn't bough the Plex, he bought the digital shirt. Yes, I bought PLEXs to get the damn shirt. I don't see anything wrong with that. I am spending what I earned. Some spend it on hookers and enjoy a colorful concoction of STDs and Herpies. I spend it on nerdy items.
The Plex was not worth the cash? EDIT: I'm confused. |

Opodiphthera Eucalypti Lepdoptera
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.06.25 18:23:00 -
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The Antiquarian wrote: No. I had no immediate use for 39 x PLEXs. The cost includes postponement of spending on other alternatives/earning interests from real investments.
But you still got the PLEX. They are worth the same in terms of game time wich is what they are meant for. And if you paid for exclusivity you had it, for 6 months. I personally don't understand this logic since we are far into the industrial age. No matter what anyone says, no product is unique, even less a digital product.
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Opodiphthera Eucalypti Lepdoptera
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.06.25 18:35:00 -
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The Antiquarian wrote:Opodiphthera Eucalypti Lepdoptera wrote:The Antiquarian wrote: No. I had no immediate use for 39 x PLEXs. The cost includes postponement of spending on other alternatives/earning interests from real investments.
But you still got the PLEX. They are worth the same in terms of game time wich is what they are meant for. And if you paid for exclusivity you had it, for 6 months. I personally don't understand this logic since we are far into the industrial age. No matter what anyone says, no product is unique, even less a digital product. When Ishukone Special Edition shirt was initially advertised, the site made it sound as if purchasing 13 x PLEXs is the only viable venue to obtain the special shirt. I did get 13 x PLEXs, but the main driver of me having to purchase the PLEXs was to obtain that special shirt. So we can't just easily dismiss the shirt as a "oh it was a bonus item. you shouldn't complain." It's not that simple. Once again, if CCP was clear from the beginning about how the shirt will be sold for $0.50 cents in the future, even an impulsive nerdy ingame item lover like me, wouldn't have gone through that damn bundle deal.
I don't think CCP knew they would have to sell it cheap. Their intended consumers refuse to buy any digital item that costed more than material items so they had to change. Maybe you should reconsider your values. Now THAT is not simple, but people do it all the time. |

Opodiphthera Eucalypti Lepdoptera
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.06.25 18:44:00 -
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This issue is indeed stupid. Thread OP is naive at his best but I sense CCP's fashion department will intervene for the sake of overall beatifulness and to restore the faith of space virtual supermodels. |

Opodiphthera Eucalypti Lepdoptera
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.06.26 00:52:00 -
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damn, I will probably not be playing for the next month, but I'm buying an Ishukone shirt myself right now |

Opodiphthera Eucalypti Lepdoptera
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.06.26 15:01:00 -
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Reech Yvormes wrote:im starting to see this sort of thing in a lot of games.
i have to wonder if we are not giving enough to support PC game devs. they actually have to do this stuff, i think, especially in todays economy. I do know that there is more money in console gaming, so i think people should not be so harsh to the op, because, without that sort of investment from PC gamers, i think the money would have to come from the general playerbase or elsewhere. rather than laugh at those who wish for cosmetic differences for a bit of real money investment. you should really support him in this because they (game developers) should hold their end of the bargain on exclusive "money injection" payments like that. its not like its pay to win (the shirt, not the plex), so thats why exclusive vanity items should be kept exclusive. their value is in their vanity.
as a gaming consumer myself, i have made a few mistakes, mostly pre order mistakes, for that snazzy pre order item. i wish i could take it back and have saved the money or that things were more of an official stance than vague small print that you never know if they will devalue your item too soon.
Gaming industry in developed countries is the only comercially prolific in these times of economical recession. Don't talk like developers are starving. This post has no sense at all. Also, they are not programming anything, this clothing is designer job. The code they are using for CQ is just a scrap from DUST and they will also use it on WoD. EvE is taking the scraps from CCP. |

Opodiphthera Eucalypti Lepdoptera
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.06.26 16:25:00 -
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Reech Yvormes wrote:well yeah i should have added that they atleast have to deliver the standard service, that part i dont disagree on, i am more speaking from a standpoint of selling vanity alongside a decent standard service. i wasnt really thinking of CCP when i wrote that, but PC gaming devs in general and vanity items..
its well known though that PC gamers spend a lot less money than console gamers because there is less of us and more of them.
It's a crappy service because it's a crappy feature. I play videogames since Atari was launched and only now this restricting content crap is on. It used to be that you acessed content through gaming only. This RMT **** is destroying creative videogame development. People don't have to play to acess content anymore so they don't care as long as they can have what they want NOW, because they payed for it. As an example the OPs behaviour on the first post. EvE used to be a bastion as a commercially sucessful independent game, now it's going on the same way to become a slot machine like other contemporary games because of overgrown babies like him.
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Opodiphthera Eucalypti Lepdoptera
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.06.26 17:32:00 -
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Panacani wrote:There is a lot of trolling of the op saying CCP never stated the shirt would be limited edition or that it wouldn't eventually be worth less than a can of soda. While that is true, it simply proves that they have deceptive marketing practices.
So either they are incompetent and missed the fact that a limited edition shirt would go on 'sale', or they are deceptive in offering a can of soda (and masking it's value) as a bonus to a $200 sale. Either way, the op has a legitimate gripe.
This thread is ridiculous and OP is too. He doesn't give a **** about the game, he just wanted an saving account for his 'investment' in the form of a digital shirt. |
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Opodiphthera Eucalypti Lepdoptera
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.06.26 19:49:00 -
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Reloadin wrote:And to think I thought I'd got a bargain picking this shirt up for 480m when I saw it going for over a bil a few months later.
So when are we going to see other supposedly limited items available? Red and blue quafe shirts? Green and gold esquire coat? Tournament ships?
What new gimmicks / marketing shams will you come up with to sell plex / collectors editions in the future?
Try 'unique' ships 're-issued' and given as gifts of choice at last CCP's birthday: Primae, Echelon, Zephyr and Apotheosis. All useless, but even so, more useful than this ******* shirt. |

Opodiphthera Eucalypti Lepdoptera
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.06.28 12:17:00 -
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CCP t0rfifrans wrote:Update: The ishukone shirt did go out accidentally. Meaning the person picking items for the offers ( me ) wasn't aware of it having been used in a PLEX promotion. Bad bad Torfi. Now that it is out and there is an issue with people that had the shirt prior as a coveted rare collectors item, we have suspended sales on the ishukone shirt while we formulate a plan that's as fair to as many as possible. Expect an update later today on the issue. It's interesting thought that it became the most popular and traded item of the new clothes we put out in Inferno 1.1.
In other news, do you think we should sell bi-monocles? An item that's essentially two monocles, one for each eye, costing as much as two monocles? I just think there's a tiny portion of players that might find it amusing to wear those. A vulgar display of, something...
CCP fashion police. I told you. Here they are. Space supermodels faith is restored.
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Opodiphthera Eucalypti Lepdoptera
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.06.28 12:22:00 -
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Obsidian Dagger wrote:Tippia wrote:Mr Kidd wrote:In the example of the Isukone Scorp.....functionally identical doesn't exactly convey identical characteristics. All BS's are functionally identical. That is to say functionally, they all kill things. How they do it and their efficacy is the real question. The main problem with the Ishukone Scorp was that, since the NeX was, and still is, in early beta-á alpha-ápre-prototype, it would generate items out of thin air and bypass the entire industryGǪ This was the main problem as I saw it back then. The only 'safe' way to do it would be to trade in an existing normal scorpion plus aurum to get the ishukone scorpion - that way the industrialists wouldn't be screwed out of the game. Of course, pretty soon it wont matter since there wont BE any industrialists (outside of 0.0 anyway) so buying a ship out of thin air for aurim could become the ONLY way to get a scorpion of any kind.
Maybe Mechwarrior Online. |
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